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Is the popularity of Halloween in the USA further evidence of christian deceit, hypocrisy and confusion?

Is the popularity of Halloween in the USA further evidence of christian deceit, hypocrisy and confusion?
Is the popularity of Halloween in the USA further evidence of christian deceit, hypocrisy and confusion?

Halloween has its roots in paganism, satanism, death worship and emulating and placating evil spirits and was basically stolen from its pagan forebears mainly by pope gregory iv who superimposed christian meaning on traditional samhain dates to strengthen christian powerhold on celtic cultures.

It seems to me that halloween is another example where again christians pulled the rug out from under meaningful pagan rituals and layered their own ideologies on top. What say you?

Just to correct that - real Satanists don't have any holidays to the best of my knowledge, and people who actually worship the devil would have to be Christian to even believe in him, so the only thing that Samhain has it's roots in is Paganism - no death worship, no devil worship.

It was originally to celebrate the harvest, prepare for winter, and traditionally the time when the veil between the spirit world and our world is the thinnest. Some cultures put out food on their front steps to offer to wandering spirits (the basis for giving out candy, or 'treats') or dressed up to confuse the less-friendly spirits. Nothing about worshiping them, but it was a time to remember our lost loved ones.

I mostly think about what has changed in my life during the past year, and what I'm looking to do in the coming year. It's basically New Year.

And, yes, another holiday that was borrowed. I don't mind so much, as long as people are celebrating. I do love the American halloween too - My little brother is 4 months old and he's going to look so cute in a little costume.

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11 Comments

  1. Carly N says:

    I say, who cares what the christians did to halloween as long as I get free candy while dressed as a pirate wench.
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  2. Catalyst says:

    I say I am not arguing. I also am expecting several thumbs down for knowing the truth. (There it is; that dreaded “T” word)
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  3. Solly Wolly Doodle NOR♦CAL R&S says:

    I say regardless of it’s origins, Halloween and the popularity of it has more to do with the universal appeal of free candy, getting dressed up in costume, and scaring the crap out of each other.
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  4. Lisa G says:

    Satanism-what?

    Evil spirits-More like playful. Jesters.

    Death worship-You kinda got me there. It -is- the end of the pagan year in many groups. But it’s not necessarily death ‘worship’.

    Paganism-Definately Samhain is rooted there.

    What say you/I-Christmas=Halloween in this respect.
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  5. Leibel JPAA says:

    No. Halloween is evidence that Irish Catholics came to the US and brought their customs with them, it evolved into American culture.
    I believe in this case the Irish population were Celtic Pagans and when the nation was converted, they worked their holidays into the Catholic religion.
    Of course, I am Jewish so this does not really pertain to me anyway.
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  6. Titus2gal says:

    Sorry the Christians didn’t invent Halloween . The Catholic Church changed it.
    If you want candy go to the store and buy it. What is with free candy anyways?
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  7. Adam the return says:

    what is up with the term stolen, nothing was “stolen” from anyone

    get over it and just be happy
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  8. Chelz says:

    Just to correct that – real Satanists don’t have any holidays to the best of my knowledge, and people who actually worship the devil would have to be Christian to even believe in him, so the only thing that Samhain has it’s roots in is Paganism – no death worship, no devil worship.

    It was originally to celebrate the harvest, prepare for winter, and traditionally the time when the veil between the spirit world and our world is the thinnest. Some cultures put out food on their front steps to offer to wandering spirits (the basis for giving out candy, or ‘treats’) or dressed up to confuse the less-friendly spirits. Nothing about worshiping them, but it was a time to remember our lost loved ones.

    I mostly think about what has changed in my life during the past year, and what I’m looking to do in the coming year. It’s basically New Year.

    And, yes, another holiday that was borrowed. I don’t mind so much, as long as people are celebrating. I do love the American halloween too – My little brother is 4 months old and he’s going to look so cute in a little costume.
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  9. Karl T says:

    Satanism.. since when was Halloween related to Satanism?

    As a Pagan I always tell people this .. Satanist wants to have nothing to do with Paganism and Pagans want to have nothing in general to do with Satanism. Satanism is a Judea-Christian religion and has nothing to do with Paganism!!!!

    Halloween is All Hallow's Day or Samhain but also intersects with the week long ancient Hellenic festivity to the dead but also a harvest ritual. It's root has nothing to do with Satanism, but the old Pagan belief.

    And All Hallow's day has nothing to do with Death Worship good gracious, it is the day the spirits come back to the world!!! Heck it is also the old harvest festival!! Death and harvest was related in the mind of the ancients.
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  10. Ard-Drui says:

    Greetings!

    Celtic Culture was around for thousands of years, before Christianity invented “Satan”. People nowadays might dress up as Old Nick, but they are pretending, not creating a holiday for the ol` debbil man.

    There was, and is, no “death worship” related to Samhuin, again, another Christian make-believe statement, but the Celts Honor the Ancestors and their place in the OtherWorld.

    “evil spirits”? the same goes for this, and no one “pulled the rug” from under our Rites, as they have continued for thousands of years.

    Now, to the intent of your question———-the phrasing is incorrect.

    Is that intentional? How could “popularity” be “evidence of deceit”?

    I`ll get back to this one-

    /!\

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  11. façade says:

    no
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